Curse

Evilsod · Nov 16, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

Agreed 100%

There is more pressing things that need attention before more lame titles. The only thing KoaBD proves is you have a less then active life...who wants to advertise that?

Sorry for the slightly off-topic but it is an issue that needs to be addressed.

Your posting on a Guild Wars forum. If you have the time to do this you already have a less than active life, so what exactly is your point?

Emik · Nov 16, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21

Leave it the way it is...

I don't want to have a seperate title for evey campaign.
Then that would make me choose which one to show.
Now people say to me 'Hey nice title you got there'
Removing that would make it dull. Coz everyone would have it.

Also how would the core skills count?
Ever thought about that?
Making them seperate would make me having to cap the core skills a second and third and for next chapters a 4th or 5th time.
Should they count for all simultaneously that would leave people with only one chapter having unfilled titles and we're already complaining bout the titles list being that long.

NONONONO DON'T CHANGE IT.
Most of the people saying to change it don't even have rank 1 so what do they care.

I'm actually getting pissed while typing here. NERFNET

bamm bamm bamm · Nov 16, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Three titles for doing something I find fun? Sign me up. I don't understand this 'cheapness' that people keep throwing around. Yes, maybe when KoaBD was 1/1, but it isn't any more. Since when was the first tier of a title supposed to be almost impossible to achieve (ignoring 1/1 titles)? The title has changed from it's inception, the opinions of the naysayers don't seemed to have followed suit.

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Originally Posted by Kha

Just because one issue is being addressed in the forums, doesn't mean they're not working on the others.

Actually, no. All Anet employees, be it artists, programmers or cleaners, all work on the same problem at the same time. In fact, their building is just a long corridor with a PC at the end, and they all queue up in front of it and work on 'The Problem', moving to the back when they've had their go. They blink with one eye at a time, because seeing with two is cheating. Gaile has been hogging the PC so much with this title fiasco, chapter 4 is now cancelled.

Eviance · Nov 16, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by Jamski

This cheapens "Kind of a big deal", I vote against.

This is my reason for voting against it... I'm working hard for Kind of a Big Deal and while I would really like to see them seperated I really don't want it, if it makes KoaBD to easily obtainable.

Kook~NBK~ · Nov 16, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

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Originally Posted by kanaxais_scythe

I think it should be left as it is. There is really no need to make the difficult to achive titles easier even if more ranks can be added. Plus, the title screen is already all chaotic with the new Nightfall ones. It needs organization before something like this could be added I think.

I'd agree with this if it weren't for one thing: The max title in question is not "Difficult" to achieve, it is Impossible to achieve.

Thalion Galad · Nov 16, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39

hi
it's a silly title anyway because is char based...

'' my wa/mo is going to cap '' peace and harmony '' very usefull for a wa/mo'' or a mo/wa caping ''warroir's Endurance'' seeing the hole pick recaping skills cause they give a title but your char is not going to use them. another skin hole...
/doh

sry for my mood nothing personal...

so i say

/pointless

Priest Of Sin · Nov 16, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

sounds good to me... but then again, I don't go elite capping enough. Seems to me that the hardcore skill cappers need to speak up on this.

Thallandor · Nov 16, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

voted for campaign specific titles.

-.- · Nov 16, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Voted with Majority, I don't want my hard earned time and effort to be wasted for something that can't be maxed until the next chapter comes out.

Hello Kitty · Nov 16, 2006, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by Emik

Making them seperate would make me having to cap the core skills a second and third and for next chapters a 4th or 5th time.
Should they count for all simultaneously that would leave people with only one chapter having unfilled titles and we're already complaining bout the titles list being that long.

You can't cap elites multiple times, so I think what happens is that all of the elites shared between multiple chapters count towards all of their respective tracks.

For example: If you capped "Cleave" in Prophecies, then it would give you 1 pip towards the skill hunter tracks in Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall. So once you get all the shared elites you'll have a head start of sorts on the title track going into new campaigns.

Sounds cool to me.

Shyft the Pyro · Nov 16, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

I'm voting for this, because a fixed progression is better than an unreliable one. At the moment, the Skill Hunter title cannot be maxed; at present rate it will not be maxed in Chapter 4. The people complaining that Sunspear ranks can't be maxed should be right here voting for this change since it makes this title available.

Further, I love the idea of "international" titles, with one caveat: I would like them to automatically update and drop the player one level whenever a new campaign is released. I know this could be seen as a ploy to get people to buy into new chapters, but I don't think it would be fair to call someone an "international" anything if they haven't traveled to all areas available. I'd rather have a 3/4 rank when Chapter 4 comes out than see someone still getting a KoaBD point with a 3/3 just because he didn't buy Chapter 4.

I know the above assumes there will be a Chapter 4 and I will buy it, but you get the idea

Corran Horn · Nov 16, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Well, I've capped 151 elites so far from all three continents with no one continent completely capped. I'm currently working on finnishing up Tyria though . At this point this change would leave me with no skill hunter title, but that's ok with me. It's not an easy title to acheive and anyone who says that it would cheapen KoaBD obviously hasn't tried to cap every elite in the game. I know it's at least as hard as the cartographer track and that gets one maxable title for each chapter. The only thing that I wouldn't like about them doing the skill hunter title this way is if they didn't have an international versio, because I plan on capping all of the elites and I want to be able to show that off at once. I wouldn't want to only be able to show one chapters title at a time.

Edit: The International title should not go towards KoaBD. It should only be recognition that you have more than one Skill Hunter title. Also, it should go into effect as soon as you have two Skill Hunter titles maxxed.

Thargor · Nov 16, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

I vote for the seperation of the titles.
All this talk about KoaBD is useless, it is already extremly easy to get if you have all three campaigns. 3 protector titles and 3 cartography titles gives you KoaBD and an extra towards PKM so there is no need for all this useless discussion about how this would affect this already easy to get title.

I also would hope that these new seperate skill hunter titles will be retroactive (if instated) since there is alot of time and alot of money involved in earning them, I know there are alot of farmers and power sellers out there that can afford to spend the almost 300K again but many people just can't afford to go cap all the elites again.
I also love the idea of international titles but there needs to be some more levels added to the KoaBD title track to adjust for the additional titles.
Great idea and I hope to see it added soon!

Two April Mornings · Nov 16, 2006, 02:56 AM // 02:56

/copy what racthoh said

Zinger314 · Nov 16, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

I'm indifferent. If the change is made, there would be no point in me going for Cartographer titles, since KOABD will be incredibly common.

I'll stick with my 3 Protector titles, though.

Enchanted Warrior · Nov 16, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10

This is why I hesitate to go for titles. They can be dropped, changed etc, and we (those in the voting minority) have no say in it. Those that have acheived it are left hanging.

Helcaraxe · Nov 16, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13

I'm in favor... everyone loves more titles, and having a title track that cannot be maxed is rather pointless.

anyway, on the subject of titles I would like to suggest an addition. The Adventurer title track, which would be based on how many side quests a specific character has completed. Make it Campaign specific and go by percentage of quests done rather than actual number since they seem to vary between camapaigns. so we would have ex.

Elonian Adventurer > Heroic Elonian Adventurer > Master Elonian Adventurer > etc...

you get the idea. Gaile... you better read this

VGJustice · Nov 16, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44

/signed, definetely. I'd like it if there were tiers within the campaign specific Skill Hunter titles as well (say, one rank for the equivilant of every elite in a profession captured). One thing bugs me, though. What about the Core Elites? Would they count at all? Or, would capping a singe Core Elite count towards every title track? That could get kinda confusing, and would greatly reduce the difficulty of getting the Skill Hunter titles.

Kakumei · Nov 16, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior

This is why I hesitate to go for titles. They can be dropped, changed etc, and we (those in the voting minority) have no say in it. Those that have acheived it are left hanging.

Those that achieved get the new titles.

roblethal · Nov 16, 2006, 04:06 AM // 04:06

I Voted yes. I also don't get it what all the complaining is about. Sounds to me that people are shooting for KOABD and that's it. Even with the proposed changes, PKM will be a common thing to see, which means more tiers will HAVE TO BE added to the "Number of Max Titles" track. This is a good thing, but I guess the idea is people were hoping that now that Nightfall is out, they can get thier 3xProtector and 3xCartographer and consider them selves elite by displaying KOABD? If you have respect for the "Number of Max Titles" track, you should see the need for these changes. The non-maxable Skill Hunter track doesn't make sense the way it is at present anyway, it will never be maxable.

Gaile, I think splitting the track sounds great, but be sure to add enough tiers to the "Number of Max Titles" track to give merit to the title.